Buying Fuel From Your Local Oil Company

[12PACK]

OK, I'm putting this here as this forum is to "post and discuss ideas". I posted this on DTR:
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/showthread.php?t=120438 and it appears I'm the only one doing it.

My first fill up I saved $.09 a gallon. Since, I've saved alot more. $.22, $.25 and the past two tanks (1/17 & 1/31) I saved $.32 a gallon compared to the local high volume Mobil, right off the highway, where I used to go.

Since heating oil is far more popular in New England than elsewhere, I'm curious if anyone else is doing this. My fuel is all I buy from this oil company as I have a gas furnace and pellet stove so there's no volume discount or any other type of deal I'm getting to get these prices.

Anyone else doing this or looked into something like this?

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Dude God help you if you get caught. If you get pulled over and your tank gets "Stuck" and you only have half a gallon left. The Government has fines posted of 2,500 (Class A misdemeanor) dollars per gallon of capacity the vehicle can hold (Or 90,000 Dollars) PLUS a TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR fine for illegal tax evasion up front (100,000dollars) PLUS 5 years inprisonment.

Good luck Obi1

[TORQUE THIS]

DITTO!!!!! Be very careful... If it has a red tint to it, STOP now...

If it does not have red tint, and is #2 highway fuel, the oil company should be filing with the state with what has been delivered to you. You are required to pay use tax on the fuel quarterly.

[12PACK]

:nono: This in ON ROAD fuel....no red...no tint, just a high volume heating oil company that has two pumps at their facility for diesel fuel. There's an overhead hose, too, for fueling the oil trucks. They get deliveries every day, that's how high volume they are.

If I go in the early am or late in the afternoon, there will be 4 or 5 dump trucks waiting to fill up. I'm big on topping of and there's no red.

The guy who told me about it drove 18 wheelers for years and is now retired. If it wasn't taxed, the $.45 more would put thier price way over what stations are getting. This is like buying wholesale.

[TORQUE THIS]

OK, around here they have someting similar. However, you have to show proof that you own a business. You get fuel cheaper but at the end of the year you get a print-out from the company on all of you purchases which you need to file with the state and feds at tax time.

If there was an app that you filled out, I would check the fine print.

[12PACK]

If there was an app that you filled out, I would check the fine print.

I did fill one out, but it was only a credit application. Simple form with no lawyer legalese on it.

You've got me curious though. The next time I fill up, I think I'll stop in the office and ask a couple of questions.

[Warpig]

It sounds too good to be true, and ya know what they say. As far as I know, they don't dip tanks in this part of the country anyways.

[mal91152]

DOT has dipped tanks in Danbury at the weigh station. My old dump truck got checked a few years ago:dunno: . One guy there said that he had them cut open a filter because they suspected he was using red stuff. I use biodiesel that I make at home, will I be gotten, no need to dip the tank you can smell it.

[DBogo]

if you can get untaxed diesel thats not red then your good

[Jim]

as long as the oil co dont report untaxed deliveries to revenuers your in good shape

[TORQUE THIS]

DOT has dipped tanks in Danbury at the weigh station. My old dump truck got checked a few years ago:dunno: . One guy there said that he had them cut open a filter because they suspected he was using red stuff. I use biodiesel that I make at home, will I be gotten, no need to dip the tank you can smell it.

Be careful with homemade brew... It's illegal to run also...

[Big John]

What ain't illegal in this psudo-pinko-commie misrun govment of ours....How many BILLLION of our tax dollars are missing in Iraq-I ain't talkin' bout the war money I mean the TRUCK LOADS of cash that was paid out to "goverment" employees that don't exist, you watch that rat hole bimbo from New Yawk will be reelllected to the white house and thing will go down hill so fast, yall be callin this "The Good Times" :stirthepot: :wtf2:

[Big John]

4 days and no replys, guess no one wants to play.....:ShizenWinder: :w-flag:

[JLeonard]

We were hoping you would have run over a land mine by now.
Oh well.:falldownlaugh:

[TORQUE THIS]

Geez Jay... :popc1:

I agree, but what can we do, NOTHING!

[Jim]

Geez Jay... :popc1:

I agree, but what can we do, NOTHING!ummmmm, HOMEBREW BIODIESEL??? Lets get off our lazy arses this spring and just do it.:stirthepot:

[TORQUE THIS]

Homemade brew is illegal also now. That came out in October of 06, nice that they kept it hush...

[Jim]

well have to keep it hush also. Heck it looks almost the same in the tank.:idea:

[Big John]

I'm sure brother pig would disagree, but 'Cop didn't see it I didn't do it':crossfingers: Turbo since your so in tune, enlighten us as WHY homebrew Biod is a no-no, although I could guess it's a tax reason....

[Big John]

We were hoping you would have run over a land mine by now.
Oh well.:falldownlaugh:

No such luck:wtf2: did I do to you??

[mal91152]

Anyone that wants to make some is welcome to meet up with me and I will show ya how. Also can help you build your reactor. If you are local we can start a co-op as I have been doing it for at least 2 years and use B100 for heat also. Unless the feds changed the law i thought you could make up to 400 Gallons for use per person per year.:wtf2:

[TORQUE THIS]

I am trying to find the thread on the TDR, however I have had to really work at work today... :wtf2:

I'll find it tonight. I know for sure it was banned in NY and NJ...

[mal91152]

Odd cause there is a large co-op over by the hudson above the Newburg bridge that makes a lot of Biodiesel I helped them get Methanol for a good price. They have several Cummins guys and came down to my barn in October.

[JLeonard]

In the 20s they bootlegged booze.
Now we can bootleg diesel fuel.
Gee how times have changed.:dunno:

[Jim]

Ive always wanted to be like Jessie Duke:woohoo:

[mal91152]

Not me, I just want "Daisy" Duke

[Jim]

Not me, I just want "Daisy" Duke

I want the modern day daisy duke. mmmmm Jessica simpson

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/signal73/jessica_simpson_jeep.jpg

[Big John]

Everybody needs a hobby, I got access to a gasser that we could use as a blocker...:m2c:

[Warpig]

I have secure two way radio's we could use, and some hardware :smokin:

[JLeonard]

I can get some gallon jugs. Probably a few 55s too.
Who's got the "dixie" horn?

[mal91152]

Guys let's think Big we can bury a pipeline - I have a backhoe and an excavator no one has to know!!

[JLeonard]

If that fails I can tow a fuel barge up the Housy!

[Big John]

I'm thinking tanker, drums weigh to much, besides a bunch of pickups hauling drums looks su....ious, al though I think Brother Pig could learn us a few tricks about hiding in plain sight....:smokin:

[Warpig]

Just put a radioactive placard on the tailgate, and on the drums :exactly:

[kawi600]

well I hope this hasnt become illegal in mass too.. no idea! no idea on how to find out either! I have a conversion on my truck too, so Im going to run a blend in the main tank and veggie in the secondary tanks which are all hidden under the truck.
What was the price you got on methanol? Last batch I got was 225 delivered which had risen a lot since the year before at 150.
I want to do some more bio this spring, last year all my bio kept coming out bad. I guess I just dont have the touch yet. :notworking: :stirthepot:
and yeah I hear ya about the govt. what a mess.. these people are throwing away all OUR money and were all going to own a big chunk of this big debt. Id like to see an impeachment right now. I mean, a CEO of a company would be out on his ass after something like this. And the newly elected democrats are too busy being pansies to get anything real done while our guys are dying by the boatload in iraq. What a freakin mess :mad:
Im voting for nader if he runs in 08. screw this.

[Schoust]

Hey Mal I'm down the road apiece from you and me and acouple of bud's just started producing this year I also run my truck on straight up grease. My problem lately is finding stuff that is useable everything is titrating very high,where are you finding the good stuff?

[mal91152]

Last 55 gallons was $135 and that was in November picked up not delievered

[kawi600]

I think you really need a hazmat transport license to move that stuff so I had mine delivered.

[bow2no1]

we have a oil company that does that here also.
but you have to get a card from them like a credit card.
and you get a bill once a month.

[12PACK]

Another benefit is I don't have to pay right away as they bill me and the Mrs. pays the bill. I last filled up Presidents Day and still haven't got the bill. :smokin:

[bow2no1]

don't worry I'm sure they haven't forgot :popc1:

[12PACK]

don't worry I'm sure they haven't forgot :popc1:

The bill just came today, 2.5 weeks after I bought. $65.31 for 27 gallons or $2.41 per gallon. That was $.18 a gallon cheaper than the high volume Mobil I was using. Another $4.86 in the BOMBing fund. :woohoo: