New to netdp from NWCT

[poorguy]

My actual name is Matt and I'm from the northwest corner of CT. I go to the University of Hartford for electrical engineering.

I've got a 460bb '83 ford for sale. You all think trading for a IDI is a good idea? Reliability an issue with those trucks?

[95Cummins]

Hey Matt welcome to the site! Where abouts in the NWC are you from? there's a pretty good number of us on this site from up in the hills.

[poorguy]

I went to OWTS in Torrington for high school. I grew up in Torrington, but it looks like I'll be living in Hartford for the summer.

[95ctd]

Alright another NWCTer:HoleShotHolset: Where did you say you were from again Harwinton:dunno::falldownlaugh:

[poorguy]

Hey 95Cummins or should I say Dave. Seth just informed me of who you are. This is Matt Hall, how the hell are ya?

[95Cummins]

:smilielol: Oh hey Matt, same old stuff going on here whats up with you? Still trying to find a diesel? :nutkick: I know you've been looking.

[poorguy]

Yeah I actually am. Ive got this wheelin' truck right now and it doesn't make for a good daily driver. One fella is interested in trading a IDI for it, but I don't know what to look out for in those trucks. I mean anyone can check for rust, I just don't got a keen eye on spotting stuff that could be a issue.

Here's my truck: http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1143357532.html

This is the trade offer: http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/1138337110.html

I was going to ask ya what have ya done to your CR but I see it all in your signature now. You seem to be on your way with that thing pretty quickly, hell of a nice truck.

[Jim]

welcome to the site poorguy :HoleShotHolset:

[95Cummins]

I was going to ask ya what have ya done to your CR but I see it all in your signature now. You seem to be on your way with that thing pretty quickly, hell of a nice truck.

Thanks! :HoleShotHolset:

I don't really know what to tell you with the IDI, I don't know much about them :dunno: I think there's a few Ford guys on here who can help you out.

[jdc753]

Welcome to the site, always good to see new members, and Ford guys lol


Personally I don't think I would do that trade, but thats mostly based off your truck looks like a nice clean ride and the other a bit of a beater. These guys here are all gonna try and steer ya away from Fords and especially IDI's just can't get any power out of them and a 12v will make some power on the cheap and probably give ya less headaches.

I love the old IDI's and hope to have one someday but as I see it its kinda like owning a flathead hot rod, never gonna be the fastest but for those who like the neatness of its cool.

I can't really think of too many things to look for on the motor, I would ask about the glow plugs and if they have ever been changed or given any problems, find out if the pump has been turned up and if he has gauges, at the least a pyro. Even stock those trucks can get awfully hot. From what I can tell they are pretty reliable motors and will get ya and just about any load to your destination just not fast. The first and simplest of mods to do to those motors is to cut out the soup bowl in the air cleaner lid, if this is still in there I would think that the motor hans't been tampered with at all. Ya can mod those motors like any other diesel, add a turbo, turn up the pump add injectors and exhaust and the whole 9 yards but at best they will probably put down 300hp and at that point not be nearly as reliable and might be tricky to drive with your eye on the pyro all the time. Otherwise bone stock should give you plenty of life as long as you keep the fluids changed regularly and check the coolant for SCA levels to avoid cavitation.

I can't think of many other obvious things to look for, but if your up for some reading and research on your own the best place to go for IDI ford stuff would be www.oilburners.net and look for Mel (agnem) and Heath (hesutton)

[95ctd]

1983 Ford 12V conversion:stirthepot:

[poorguy]

I just found a good write up from Agnem on oilburners. (Have to be a member to read)

http://www.oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7597

I bombarded the IDI guy with questions so I'll have to see what he says. My main worry is that it was just treated as a beater and no consideration was takin to how these trucks need some extra attention.

Thanks for the input jdc753, greatly appreciated

[12PACK]

That '83 is a sharp looking truck.

Welcome to the site and good luck in your search! :HoleShotHolset:

[jdc753]

1983 Ford 12V conversion:stirthepot:

Sounds like a pretty good idea right there (and this is coming from a Ford guy lol) you would have one helluva truck. Might just need some beefy coils up front since it looks like you still got the F150 suspsension. 2wd diesel coils would work but would have no lift /doh

I just found a good write up from Agnem on oilburners. (Have to be a member to read)

http://www.oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7597

I bombarded the IDI guy with questions so I'll have to see what he says. My main worry is that it was just treated as a beater and no consideration was takin to how these trucks need some extra attention.

Thanks for the input jdc753, greatly appreciated

Agnem is the Man when it comes to the ole IDI's I been reading his stuff for the past 8 years or more when I was restoring an old IDI and before I even owned a diesel lol. I try and give whatever input I can so glad it helped ya out.

[Jim]

that guy used to be on the old ford-diesel.com aka the dieselstop.com of nowadays IIRC.

[jdc753]

that guy used to be on the old ford-diesel.com aka the dieselstop.com of nowadays IIRC.

That he was, now your surprising me Jim. I thought all cummins owners were avid haters of Fords and would break out in hives if they ventured onto a Ford diesel site :smilielol:

ford-diesel.com is going back a LOOONG ways too, was a good place back then and for a while but now its just too many adds and too many nazi mods on thedieselstop.com :nutkick:

[killed300ex]

That he was, now your surprising me Jim. I thought all cummins owners were avid haters of Fords and would break out in hives if they ventured onto a Ford diesel site :smilielol:

ford-diesel.com is going back a LOOONG ways too, was a good place back then and for a while but now its just too many adds and too many nazi mods on thedieselstop.com :nutkick:

You forget that jim comes from a ford background with 7.3 and such then he saw the light and switched to a truck with a real motor :stirthepot:

[Diesel97]

You forget that jim comes from a ford background with 7.3 and such then he saw the light and switched to a truck with a real motor :stirthepot:

:pointlaugh:

[jdc753]

You forget that jim comes from a ford background with 7.3 and such then he saw the light and switched to a truck with a real motor :stirthepot:

Huh learn somethin new everyday. Hope he wasn't one of the poor guys who saw the light through the freshly installed bay window in the block :nutkick:

I drive a 6leaker lol, I like Ford trucks but don't have a heavy allegiance to the motor like many of the 7.3 guys do.

[Jim]

I was Ford back in 02 with a 7.3 and 6.0 both superduties. I have like 1200 posts on the good ol dieselstop from back in the day. Great trucks, but I shoulda kept that 7.3 that 04 6.0 killed my love for the blue oval....

[jdc753]

I was Ford back in 02 with a 7.3 and 6.0 both superduties. I have like 1200 posts on the good ol dieselstop from back in the day. Great trucks, but I shoulda kept that 7.3 that 04 6.0 killed my love for the blue oval....

Sadly I think the 6leakers have done that for a lot of people. I think I only got like 400 posts on TDS and I been a member there since 02 or something lol, and lurked LONG before then.

I gotta say though the 6.0's are doing some good things come TS, looks like TONS of new parts and at least one maybe more 1,000rwhp setups. Certainly not breakthrough in diesels but for us 6leaker dunces it is nice to see lol. Least enough stuff to finally start testing the bottom end strength of the baby stroker.

[Diesel97]

I was Ford back in 02 with a 7.3 and 6.0 both superduties. I have like 1200 posts on the good ol dieselstop from back in the day. Great trucks, but I shoulda kept that 7.3 that 04 6.0 killed my love for the blue oval....

Yup I think I seen ye old 7.3 pulling out of the bowling alley again the other night.Still looks mint.:exactly:

[Davedove]

Welcome...:HoleShotHolset:

[12PACK]

How's Ford's new 6.4 doing? All I've read about it (not that I've been looking for articles) is the first recall they had and, of course, the You Tube flame thrower video.

[poorguy]

I'm considering trading for that IDI. I got some better pictures and the rust don't look so bad just cosmetics, but I have yet to see it in person. The guy is very interested in trading. My truck is clean but once you get up close and personal it don't look like no show truck.

I'll let ya guys know what I end up doing. I just need a more reliable driver for the next couple years till I'm out of school and the idea of having an IDI sounds pretty fun to me.

Will I be one of the only IDI fellas on here then? Most of ya seem to either be Cummins owners or newer model truck owners. Don't get me wrong I'd take a CTD over any other truck but, funds won't allow till I get the chance to work a real job.

[Diesel97]

Cant really tell you much about the IDI motor,although I did own a 86 F250 6.9 back in 1994 that my father had bought new in 86.The IDI motor by all means is not going to be a powerhouse,but can be turned up a bit to make the ride a little better.Trackspeeder on here is the one to talk to about them he is very smart with them as he has a few that he plays with.

[Jim]

Yup I think I seen ye old 7.3 pulling out of the bowling alley again the other night.Still looks mint.:exactly:

My friend rich owns that now. Hes ready to start throwing some $$ at it in form of mods. He wants to do a tuner, exhaust and intake. If he blows it up I will be a ford owner again! Hey Joey whats the name of that tuning software you used to dockboy yours so I can tell him what to get.:smilielol:

[SuperFummins]

DP-Tuner

[Jim]

DP= Destruction Prone?:popcorn:

[poorguy]

Supposedly the injection pump is turned up a couple flatts already. The truck already has exhaust. If the stock intake is still there I plan on probably just doing a home depot cold air setup, I found a write up on how to do one online. According to the owner the truck needs nothing, no hard starts, glow plugs are all good, no leaks, just a small amount of rust over the rear wheel wells. I'll let ya guys know if I trade for it or not.

[jdc753]

Supposedly the injection pump is turned up a couple flatts already. The truck already has exhaust. If the stock intake is still there I plan on probably just doing a home depot cold air setup, I found a write up on how to do one online. According to the owner the truck needs nothing, no hard starts, glow plugs are all good, no leaks, just a small amount of rust over the rear wheel wells. I'll let ya guys know if I trade for it or not.

Sounds pretty solid. Intake can be pretty easy to do for sure, definitely plenty of home made ones out there, hardest part would be making up a hat for the intake on an NA motor. Just make sure to get a pyro on it specially if the pump has been turned up a bit.

[poorguy]

Sounds pretty solid. Intake can be pretty easy to do for sure, definitely plenty of home made ones out there, hardest part would be making up a hat for the intake on an NA motor. Just make sure to get a pyro on it specially if the pump has been turned up a bit.

If the truck ain't got a pyro that is first order of buisness.

I've been referencing this when thinking about making an intake: http://www.members.shaw.ca/k2pilot/Homeade%20ramair%20article.html

Personally I think the cover he has looks stupid. Have you seen any other home done intakes for this truck. If not, anything you'd suggest on the cheap side I could purchase?

[jdc753]

If the truck ain't got a pyro that is first order of buisness.

I've been referencing this when thinking about making an intake: http://www.members.shaw.ca/k2pilot/Homeade%20ramair%20article.html

Personally I think the cover he has looks stupid. Have you seen any other home done intakes for this truck. If not, anything you'd suggest on the cheap side I could purchase?

If you found Ziggster's page your are certainly on the right track. I recognize the K2Pilot long before I even had to click on the link lol. More then likely all you will need until you get a turbo on it, then you can do something more like the "Moose air" or the DIY tymar (on the powerstrokes) I remember seeing one a looong ways back where a guy took an AEM (I think, or some standard aftermarket intake company) kit for a Dodge 5.9L gasser I think, and was able to bolt it up to the intake. But probably best to just stick with the like you posted.

I skimmed through the write up quick and not sure if I saw mention of cutting off the soup bowl but ya defineitly gotta do that and is nice and easy. With the intake and exhaust it is pretty much set for mods unless you get a turbo for it ATS and Hypermax both make the most affordable kits and Banks has one that is a bit more complete but more money.

[poorguy]

If you found Ziggster's page your are certainly on the right track. I recognize the K2Pilot long before I even had to click on the link lol. More then likely all you will need until you get a turbo on it, then you can do something more like the "Moose air" or the DIY tymar (on the powerstrokes) I remember seeing one a looong ways back where a guy took an AEM (I think, or some standard aftermarket intake company) kit for a Dodge 5.9L gasser I think, and was able to bolt it up to the intake. But probably best to just stick with the like you posted.

I skimmed through the write up quick and not sure if I saw mention of cutting off the soup bowl but ya defineitly gotta do that and is nice and easy. With the intake and exhaust it is pretty much set for mods unless you get a turbo for it ATS and Hypermax both make the most affordable kits and Banks has one that is a bit more complete but more money.

I heard Banks discontinued their kit so now it is only Hypermax and ATS both running 2g's which I am not well off enough to afford. Maybe later on down the road, both sites say they give ya 50% power upgrades (pretty impressive). I'd probably just run it with only intake and exhaust for a while anyhow.

I am a little worried about water getting in there if I do the tubing like that k2pilot intake. I ain't going to submerge it or anything but I'm thinking about winter with slush and all that. When you said a hat would be hard for the NA did you mean the cover at the end of the inlet?

[jdc753]

I heard Banks discontinued their kit so now it is only Hypermax and ATS both running 2g's which I am not well off enough to afford. Maybe later on down the road, both sites say they give ya 50% power upgrades (pretty impressive). I'd probably just run it with only intake and exhaust for a while anyhow.

I am a little worried about water getting in there if I do the tubing like that k2pilot intake. I ain't going to submerge it or anything but I'm thinking about winter with slush and all that. When you said a hat would be hard for the NA did you mean the cover at the end of the inlet?

That sucks about the banks, I always liked that kit, but then again I guess I am not surprised, coming from a company that said the "7.3L PSD is a dead platform" They should all preform about the same I would expect and MANY people were happy with the hypermax kits and toted it as the best bang for the buck, I just liked the wastegated setup better.

Water is the main reason I have never bothered with the "Zoodad mod" for the superduty. But in the case of the IDI's I would think a good piece of screen or something on the radiator support will block most stuff then all the piping up to the intake will help. Then again running an open element behind the battery or something like the DIY tymar for the OBS powerstrokes would probably flow just as much and be a bit safer.

For the hat I was talking about the part that bolts down to the intake manifold. Since stock these trucks have basically the same air cleaner setup as a gasser to run an open element more similar to the turbo trucks you would need some sort of an adapter that would bolt to the intake manifold and give you a spot to clamp the intake pipe down to.

Something like this is what I was thinking, this was a homemade intake hat for an intercooled hypermax truck
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/IDI%20stuff/11706intakeadapterlores-med.jpg

Here is a picture of Mel's "Moose Air" again for a hypermax turbo'd truck
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1036058723035088401qRNDgu?vhost=rides

This is what I think the guy adapted to work on his truck, notice how it bolts down to the throttle body similar to how the air cleaner bolts to the intake manifold on the IDI
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2613000-2613999/2613787_110_full.jpg

[poorguy]

Thanks for the pictures! It is a hurdle I'll cross if the time comes. The idea of doing open element, like you mentioned, is something I think I'd be more interested in. By the way, looks like this trade could very well happen.